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		<title>By: Chris Swiden</title>
		<link>http://scottshephard.edublogs.org/2007/05/10/should-we-eliminate-the-laptops/#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Swiden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 10:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In case you didn’t know this is my first year teaching.  Now, it is possible that I have grand Ideas and have a lot to learn before I am a teacher,   But from what I have seen this year there are a lot of things that we as teachers need to learn and make decisions about.  The biggest of these issues that I see teachers having issues with is the 1 to 1.

I don’t know why there is a fear of laptops but it is there.  I recently went to Minnetonka to observe a school that is very technology oriented.  When I talked with teachers and administrators about there school and they asked what technology we had they were taken back that we had laptops for every student.  You should have seen there eyes when I explained that there are teachers that are against the 1 to 1 initiative.  They could not comprehend how a teacher would not want computers for each student.  So I thought about why teachers don’t want to have computers.

Here is what I thought of
&lt;strong&gt; •	Time&lt;/strong&gt;
o	Yes it does take time to use computers, but how much time do they save by instant access to information and not moving down to the computer labs when you need computers.
&lt;strong&gt; •	Classroom Management&lt;/strong&gt;
o	This is a big problem with the computers and one I struggled with in the first part of the year.  Then I found out this amazing thing it was spectacular when I figured this out.  It is my classroom, I could control when the students are on the computers, I can control what programs they are in with a program called synchroneyes.  What was most incredible was when I asked them to close their computers they did.  The problem with classroom management is that it is difficult and requires different techniques to manage the students and remember that the teacher is in control.
&lt;strong&gt; •	Games and information&lt;/strong&gt;
o	The answer to this question is a bit harder and I won’t claim to have all of the answers but when the majority of our students have computers and internet access at home and I would be will to be that most of the students have some sort of gaming counsel as well.  These problems run much deeper than the 1 to 1 program but it is something that we have to work on and why we have programs like lightspeed and synchroneyes.  This is one of the things that we as educators need to help with and I also wonder where the parents fall into this issue.
o	I also feel like since this is a problem that he have responsibility to fix the issue because we are educators and we need to educate the students.
&lt;strong&gt; •	Cost&lt;/strong&gt;
o	Computers are a major investment and not all of the cost of the computers goes into hardware some of it goes into software and insurance on the computers.   I also feel however the state gets money for programs is a good thing.  I knew the pay when I choice this field and it is not good, but teacher pay is a separate issue and as a teacher I feel the most important thing is what is best for the student and computers are what is best for our students.

So to answer why 1 to 1 because it is what is best for the students.

Yes we have things to learn. And no the system is not perfect yet. But the 1 to 1 is what you make of it and just like we tell our students you have a choice to make will you move forward embrace a program that literally puts the world at you and your students finger tips or go back to the way teachers have taught since before the car, the computer, or the internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In case you didn’t know this is my first year teaching.  Now, it is possible that I have grand Ideas and have a lot to learn before I am a teacher,   But from what I have seen this year there are a lot of things that we as teachers need to learn and make decisions about.  The biggest of these issues that I see teachers having issues with is the 1 to 1.</p>
<p>I don’t know why there is a fear of laptops but it is there.  I recently went to Minnetonka to observe a school that is very technology oriented.  When I talked with teachers and administrators about there school and they asked what technology we had they were taken back that we had laptops for every student.  You should have seen there eyes when I explained that there are teachers that are against the 1 to 1 initiative.  They could not comprehend how a teacher would not want computers for each student.  So I thought about why teachers don’t want to have computers.</p>
<p>Here is what I thought of<br />
<strong> •	Time</strong><br />
o	Yes it does take time to use computers, but how much time do they save by instant access to information and not moving down to the computer labs when you need computers.<br />
<strong> •	Classroom Management</strong><br />
o	This is a big problem with the computers and one I struggled with in the first part of the year.  Then I found out this amazing thing it was spectacular when I figured this out.  It is my classroom, I could control when the students are on the computers, I can control what programs they are in with a program called synchroneyes.  What was most incredible was when I asked them to close their computers they did.  The problem with classroom management is that it is difficult and requires different techniques to manage the students and remember that the teacher is in control.<br />
<strong> •	Games and information</strong><br />
o	The answer to this question is a bit harder and I won’t claim to have all of the answers but when the majority of our students have computers and internet access at home and I would be will to be that most of the students have some sort of gaming counsel as well.  These problems run much deeper than the 1 to 1 program but it is something that we have to work on and why we have programs like lightspeed and synchroneyes.  This is one of the things that we as educators need to help with and I also wonder where the parents fall into this issue.<br />
o	I also feel like since this is a problem that he have responsibility to fix the issue because we are educators and we need to educate the students.<br />
<strong> •	Cost</strong><br />
o	Computers are a major investment and not all of the cost of the computers goes into hardware some of it goes into software and insurance on the computers.   I also feel however the state gets money for programs is a good thing.  I knew the pay when I choice this field and it is not good, but teacher pay is a separate issue and as a teacher I feel the most important thing is what is best for the student and computers are what is best for our students.</p>
<p>So to answer why 1 to 1 because it is what is best for the students.</p>
<p>Yes we have things to learn. And no the system is not perfect yet. But the 1 to 1 is what you make of it and just like we tell our students you have a choice to make will you move forward embrace a program that literally puts the world at you and your students finger tips or go back to the way teachers have taught since before the car, the computer, or the internet.</p>
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		<title>By: cliff</title>
		<link>http://scottshephard.edublogs.org/2007/05/10/should-we-eliminate-the-laptops/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>cliff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 22:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't hear anybody talking about the middle ground.  How about classroom laptops only?  If we did would excuses for not doing homework increase?  How did students complete computer assignments before we got laptop?  I agree that we can't go back to the very beginning but why can't we make students pay for damaged computers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t hear anybody talking about the middle ground.  How about classroom laptops only?  If we did would excuses for not doing homework increase?  How did students complete computer assignments before we got laptop?  I agree that we can&#8217;t go back to the very beginning but why can&#8217;t we make students pay for damaged computers?</p>
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		<title>By: William Gripentrog</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Gripentrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 12:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think people are getting the use of computers and laptops confused with every student having a laptop 24 hours a day.

No doubt the use of computers and laptops is essential and has become infused in virtually every part of society. 

Some staff members wanted a cart of computers in every classroom at the beginning of this project. Their concerns and suggestions were ignored. I just walked through the lunchroom this morning and observed 18 computers. I observed 12 games being played, 5 in email and one student using their computer for academic purpose. I don't like the culture that is being set at the school byt the laptops. 

Students need to have fun, but the atmosphere of the school should be one of learning. How is Kung-Fu Jesus beating up an angel an appropriate academic setting.

I believe that the following could be achieved without laptops 24/7:
• Spend more time involved in collaborative work
• Participate more in project-based learning
• Produce writing of higher quality and greater length
• Gain increased access to information
• Improve research analysis skills
• Direct their own learning
• Readily engage in problem solving and critical thinking
• Consistently show deeper and more flexible uses of technology


We seem to have experienced every problem that the Liverpool has experienced. 

I am very concerned with the achievment gap that laptops have contributed rather than solved. Most students handle the laptops fine, but many of lowest performing students don't have the maturtiy to handle all of the distractions by the laptop. 

Sorry to sound negative but I am very displeased with the adminstration of the laptops for some very fundamental reasons.
1. Why do students need to check their email every 90 minutes? Why are we giving up class time to check their email unless it is part of the class? 
2. Why do students get their laptops 3 weeks before school starts? They develop bad habits before they even walk through our classroom door. They shouldn't get their computers until they have been drilled about the appropriate and educational purposes of the laptop.
3. Why isn't their background pasted with "Property of Watertown School District." Some students have the view that the computer is their property not that this is a tool for educational purposes. If one teacher or adminstrator spends time with one student because of an inappropriate background this is one too many.

Now that I have said all of the negatives, I would be the first to object to removing the laptops from the classroom. I have spent too much time developing the course to use the computers to get rid of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think people are getting the use of computers and laptops confused with every student having a laptop 24 hours a day.</p>
<p>No doubt the use of computers and laptops is essential and has become infused in virtually every part of society. </p>
<p>Some staff members wanted a cart of computers in every classroom at the beginning of this project. Their concerns and suggestions were ignored. I just walked through the lunchroom this morning and observed 18 computers. I observed 12 games being played, 5 in email and one student using their computer for academic purpose. I don&#8217;t like the culture that is being set at the school byt the laptops. </p>
<p>Students need to have fun, but the atmosphere of the school should be one of learning. How is Kung-Fu Jesus beating up an angel an appropriate academic setting.</p>
<p>I believe that the following could be achieved without laptops 24/7:<br />
• Spend more time involved in collaborative work<br />
• Participate more in project-based learning<br />
• Produce writing of higher quality and greater length<br />
• Gain increased access to information<br />
• Improve research analysis skills<br />
• Direct their own learning<br />
• Readily engage in problem solving and critical thinking<br />
• Consistently show deeper and more flexible uses of technology</p>
<p>We seem to have experienced every problem that the Liverpool has experienced. </p>
<p>I am very concerned with the achievment gap that laptops have contributed rather than solved. Most students handle the laptops fine, but many of lowest performing students don&#8217;t have the maturtiy to handle all of the distractions by the laptop. </p>
<p>Sorry to sound negative but I am very displeased with the adminstration of the laptops for some very fundamental reasons.<br />
1. Why do students need to check their email every 90 minutes? Why are we giving up class time to check their email unless it is part of the class?<br />
2. Why do students get their laptops 3 weeks before school starts? They develop bad habits before they even walk through our classroom door. They shouldn&#8217;t get their computers until they have been drilled about the appropriate and educational purposes of the laptop.<br />
3. Why isn&#8217;t their background pasted with &#8220;Property of Watertown School District.&#8221; Some students have the view that the computer is their property not that this is a tool for educational purposes. If one teacher or adminstrator spends time with one student because of an inappropriate background this is one too many.</p>
<p>Now that I have said all of the negatives, I would be the first to object to removing the laptops from the classroom. I have spent too much time developing the course to use the computers to get rid of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Jan Johnson</title>
		<link>http://scottshephard.edublogs.org/2007/05/10/should-we-eliminate-the-laptops/#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>Jan Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 17:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a big proponent of the 1-to-1 laptop initiative. One reason that we moved from Estelline was so that our son could have access to this program.  Now Estelline is getting laptops but many years after Watertown has implemented, learned, and improved on the program.
     I am also on the technology committee of our bank, and when we hire, we look for people with multiple computer skills.  There is not one job at our bank that doesn't require A LOT of technology skill. If new employees are comfortable with technology and with learning new programs, supervisors find job training so much easier. I'm guessing that countless other businesses across the United States have those same technology requirements.
     Computers are a powerful tool--for education, for entertainment, for communication.  We will always have to manage the problem of a "walking game machine."  That is the hard part, and we need creative solutions.  Still, going back to a central computer lab would be like going back to having only an oven after getting used to a microwave in the kitchen.  I could do it, but I sure wouldn't like it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a big proponent of the 1-to-1 laptop initiative. One reason that we moved from Estelline was so that our son could have access to this program.  Now Estelline is getting laptops but many years after Watertown has implemented, learned, and improved on the program.<br />
     I am also on the technology committee of our bank, and when we hire, we look for people with multiple computer skills.  There is not one job at our bank that doesn&#8217;t require A LOT of technology skill. If new employees are comfortable with technology and with learning new programs, supervisors find job training so much easier. I&#8217;m guessing that countless other businesses across the United States have those same technology requirements.<br />
     Computers are a powerful tool&#8211;for education, for entertainment, for communication.  We will always have to manage the problem of a &#8220;walking game machine.&#8221;  That is the hard part, and we need creative solutions.  Still, going back to a central computer lab would be like going back to having only an oven after getting used to a microwave in the kitchen.  I could do it, but I sure wouldn&#8217;t like it!</p>
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		<title>By: Thoughts and Discussion on Teacher Tech &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Assignment for Tuesday, May 15</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thoughts and Discussion on Teacher Tech &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Assignment for Tuesday, May 15</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 13:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: R9semary Hirtz</title>
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		<dc:creator>R9semary Hirtz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 18:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do we solve the problem of "addicted" students?  These kids do not know when to stop playing games or texting and get on with the rest of their life.  I think there needs to be a better way to restrict kids from using their computers as a "walking Game-Boy" and use it for educational purposes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do we solve the problem of &#8220;addicted&#8221; students?  These kids do not know when to stop playing games or texting and get on with the rest of their life.  I think there needs to be a better way to restrict kids from using their computers as a &#8220;walking Game-Boy&#8221; and use it for educational purposes.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt engel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt engel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 16:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When block scheduling was being instituted, I (we) were told that we needed to change to make progress. The dinosaurs didn't change and they are now extinct. The insinuation was that if I didn't want to change I was a dinosaur and would become extinct myself. When the laptop issue was brought in I was again insulted as were all of us when we were told "we chose what we wanted to do" in response to pay issues involving the tech department. Now the insinuation is that I don't have what it takes. Don't worry Scott, we're still friends. Let's face it, we were pushed off the high board head first without knowing how deep the water was. We were left paralyzed to endure intense physical therapy and we may not fully recover. Have our test scores improved? Have thay dropped? We won't know the cause either way because there have been too many variables in the experiment. We have to show by the  test scores that we have made progress in every other area, but these issues seem to be exempt from that requirement. Has it been worth the cost? Good luck proving that. I do know that my wife's personal laptop that is loaded with software and has wireless capability cost about half the cost of the gateway student computers. It has never broken down in over two years of use. Some how, the governer has come up with millions of dollars for "technology", but I still live in the state where teacher's pay is the lowest in the nation. I love teaching, and I love South Dakota. I don't want to do anything else or live anywhere else, but at some point someone has to take a look at what we are doing to our kids and determine it is really the best thing for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When block scheduling was being instituted, I (we) were told that we needed to change to make progress. The dinosaurs didn&#8217;t change and they are now extinct. The insinuation was that if I didn&#8217;t want to change I was a dinosaur and would become extinct myself. When the laptop issue was brought in I was again insulted as were all of us when we were told &#8220;we chose what we wanted to do&#8221; in response to pay issues involving the tech department. Now the insinuation is that I don&#8217;t have what it takes. Don&#8217;t worry Scott, we&#8217;re still friends. Let&#8217;s face it, we were pushed off the high board head first without knowing how deep the water was. We were left paralyzed to endure intense physical therapy and we may not fully recover. Have our test scores improved? Have thay dropped? We won&#8217;t know the cause either way because there have been too many variables in the experiment. We have to show by the  test scores that we have made progress in every other area, but these issues seem to be exempt from that requirement. Has it been worth the cost? Good luck proving that. I do know that my wife&#8217;s personal laptop that is loaded with software and has wireless capability cost about half the cost of the gateway student computers. It has never broken down in over two years of use. Some how, the governer has come up with millions of dollars for &#8220;technology&#8221;, but I still live in the state where teacher&#8217;s pay is the lowest in the nation. I love teaching, and I love South Dakota. I don&#8217;t want to do anything else or live anywhere else, but at some point someone has to take a look at what we are doing to our kids and determine it is really the best thing for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Shanon Manley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shanon Manley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 13:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that we can see benefits around us everyday.  I know that I do not want to go back to the old way of using a central computer lab - and taking up the space for everyone because I believe the computer has helped me find some creative project ideas both online and ones I have created.  It allows me to quickly share my ideas with my fellow teachers and even stay in constant contact with my students.  

I believe that when we work together to help one another gain comfort with this machince, the better we will be.  I also believe that the machine is only a tool that not everyone should be forced to use if it is not appropriate for their field.  However, in every field, there are some ways you can utilize a computer and I believe that is what should be asked of our faculty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that we can see benefits around us everyday.  I know that I do not want to go back to the old way of using a central computer lab - and taking up the space for everyone because I believe the computer has helped me find some creative project ideas both online and ones I have created.  It allows me to quickly share my ideas with my fellow teachers and even stay in constant contact with my students.  </p>
<p>I believe that when we work together to help one another gain comfort with this machince, the better we will be.  I also believe that the machine is only a tool that not everyone should be forced to use if it is not appropriate for their field.  However, in every field, there are some ways you can utilize a computer and I believe that is what should be asked of our faculty.</p>
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